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BAPTISM & THANKSGIVING
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Introduction |
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Welcome you to this information page on
Baptism and Thanksgiving services .
Recently we at St Patricks/St Andrews
have made some major changes to the way
in which we hold our baptism services. Not so long
ago, most baptisms, despite the title of the service being "public
baptism", were anything but public and took place in an empty church
on a quiet Sunday afternoon with only family and friends present. But,
as scripture shows, Jesus regards children as being of great value. He
loves our children even more than we do! And we, as members of
Christ's Church are called to love all our children too, so we are
seeking to make baptism a joyful, shared experience where we can show
love, support and encouragement to young parents.
A baptism is
usually a happy social occasion, which is how it was in New Testament
times, so it's good to follow in this ancient custom - but it's even
better when we do it for the right reasons. Parents naturally want the
best for their children, and to bring up their child as a Christian,
which they promise to do in the baptism service, is the best possible
start in life because it is what God intends for their child.
Baptism was
commanded by Jesus as a public declaration of what had taken place in
the heart of a person who has trusted Christ for salvation. From early
times it has been the custom of the church that baptism should be
administered to the children of believing parents, who promised to
teach their children the Christian faith by word and example.

But should we
expect parents to teach the Christian faith if they don't practise it
themselves? Therefore, parents are asked to openly affirm that they
personally accept the teachings of the Church and are committed to the
teaching and values of Christianity. Actually, this is rather a lot to
take on without giving it some serious thought, so in our baptism
preparation courses we try to give parents (and godparents) an
opportunity to think and talk these things through in a relaxed and
friendly setting. There is no guarantee that we are going to get it
right all of the time, but we are all in this together - with God and
with each other as part of the Christian family.
The staff in
St. Patrick's are keen to encourage people to take the issue of
baptism, and in particular the promises and affirmations they make,
seriously. But we are aware that there are some pastoral difficulties
involved. We face sensitive issues when, for example, people who are
not part of the worshipping community or who are not in a position to
honestly make the promises required of them, present children for
baptism. Some hold the opinion that it is their right to have their
child baptised, whether or not they attend church or claim to be
followers of Jesus and His teachings.
What is the
church to do? When it says no, it feels that it is sending people away
empty handed and condemned -surely not what Jesus would have done.
When it says yes, it feels that it is devaluing the affirmations of
faith and promises made before God and that is contrary to scripture.
Bearing all these things in mind, the staff have sought to produce a
policy that is even handed and still maintains integrity.
Put simply, there are two
elements, both very firmly in line with the historic tradition of the
Church of Ireland..........as follows..:
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1) Thanksgiving |
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Firstly, every parent can come with the new baby, to a short and
simple act of thanksgiving. There are no conditions, no promises or
affirmations and therefore no need to attend preparation classes,
although an informal talk with one of the staff would be desirable.
You can do this as soon as possible whenever mother and baby are
ready.
Thanksgiving is exactly what it says, an opportunity to thank God for
the birth of a child and to receive the. prayerful support of the
church family as you begin the difficult task of bringing them up in a
difficult world. Thanksgiving is available for anyone and for many is
the first step towards baptism. All parents are encouraged to come for
thanksgiving, which can take place as soon as baby is ready to he
brought out to church. It can be incorporated into most services -
modem or traditional - to suit the family and only takes a few days to
organise. (It's probably best not to have Thanksgiving in Holy
Communion services and on special days). Contact Graham Nevin or any
of the staff to make arrangements.
We all join in wishing you well and we pray that your child will grow
up happy and healthy and will bring you much joy. We look forward to
welcoming your children into the church family, where we hope all of
you will find encouragement support and practical help, but above all,
a living and saving Christian faith. For most people, the arrival of a
new baby is an experience that makes us turn in thankfulness to God,
the source of all life. We encourage you to express your thankfulness
to God and we invite you to share with us in a short act of
thanksgiving at one of our regular Sunday services.
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Common Thanksgiving
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What do
we have to do?
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We do
this in a very simple way, using the Thanksgiving in the 2004 Church
of Ireland prayer book. You will be invited to come, with your new
baby to the front of the church and read a short thanksgiving prayer,
after which we will pray for you, your baby and for the home in which
you will grow up together |
Can
anyone do this? |
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Yes,
this is available for everyone, no matter what your circumstances,
whether or not you are a regular church attender and whatever your
experience and understanding of God might be. There is also a
special for newly adopted children. |
When should this happen? |
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It's
good to come just as you feel ready to bring your baby out. We usually
have the Thanksgiving at the beginning of the service so if your
little one doesn't settle or needs to be changed or fed, you can slip
out (St Patrick's has baby changing facilities at the back of the
church). You can pick any service, morning or evening, just as it
suits, although we prefer not to include a Thanksgiving in the Parish
Communion at St Patricks on the first Sunday in the mouth, as this can
already be a long service. If you have a particular Sunday in mind, we
can probably fit in with that, although it is not always possible to
arrange for the Thanksgiving to be led by a particular member of
staff. |
Who, should come? |
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Anyone
can come and older brothers and sisters are especially welcome, but
you don't need Godparents, sponsors or anything like that. |
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there "any strings attached" if we come for Thanksgiving? |
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No -
the act of Thanksgiving is simply that. Nobody will ask you to join
anything or to make any promises that you feel you may not be able to
keep. Of course, we would love to see you and your family as active
members of our Christian family, since we believe that only in Jesus
Christ can we find a way through the many problem of fife that you as
a growing family will undoubtedly encounter, but Thanksgiving isn’t
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What is The Thanksgiving Prayer?
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Leader
Let us thank God that in his goodness he has given you this
son/daughter….
Parents
God our Father, maker of all that is living, We praise you for the
wonder and joy of creation. We thank you for the life of our child
..................For his/her safe delivery, And for the joy and
privilege of parenthood Accept our thanks and praise. Through Jesus
Christ our Lord. Amen
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What do I do next? |
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just contact the Parish Office (7034 4213) and leave your details, or,
if you prefer, speak directly to one of the staff team. |
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2) Baptism |
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Secondly, for those who want to, baptism can be explored later on. All
parents presenting children for baptism will have to participate in a
short preparation course. This will be normally be a series of three
evening classes, held in the home of people who have themselves gone
through the trials and joys of bringing up a family in a Christian
home. Because we find it helpful to go through this course with a
group of parents who can share their ideas and experiences, we hold
baptism courses approximately every three months. While this may mean
that baptism services are less frequent than they were in the past, it
also means that we can concentrate our resources into a really special
service in which all of us can share in the joy of seeing young
parents confidently and sincerely making their declaration of faith,
assuring them of our prayers and practical support and welcoming their
children into the church family.
Baptism Celebration which is built around the Order for Baptism of the
BCP 2004, is the main service of the day when there is a month with a
5th Sunday. It is a great time for everyone to celebrate the arrival
of new members into the church family and has become one of our most
popular services. In our parish, we take Baptism very seriously and
believe that no one should make the promises and declarations that are
part of the service unless they fully understand - and are prepared to
put into practice - what they are agreeing to. For this reason,
parents and godparents are expected to attend the Baptism preparation
course, held 4 or 5 times a year, in the month leading up to the 5th
Sunday. The course looks at our understanding of baptism and at the
meaning of the affirmations of faith that are made in the service, as
well as some of the practicalities of bringing up children in the
Christian faith. In the past, participation in these course has been
enthusiastic and thoughtful and many of the parents have taken
significant steps in their personal faith and made new friends. The
course takes 3 evenings and is held in homes where the hosts have a
wealth of practical experience in bringing up children to share with
young parents. We are always happy for you to bring baby along as
well. Young people and adults thinking of baptism are also invited, to
be part of the baptism preparation group. |
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As part of the Church of Ireland
the Parish of Coleraine maintains the tradition that the sacrament of
Holy Baptism is for the children of believing parents. In the Baptism
service, you as parents (and also any Godparents) will be asked to
make certain promises and affirmations. The traditional service
reminds us that "Holy Baptism is administered to infants on the
understanding that they will be brought up in the fellowship of
Christ's Church; that they will be taught the Christian faith and you
will be asked to publicly agree to do this. However, we can't really
expect you to teach your child the Christian faith if you don't
understand and practice it yourself so you will also be asked to
affirm that you personally accept the central teachings of
Christianity. The Church has always understood that these things need
to be taken very seriously and indeed the "rules' of the Church of
Ireland require that the promises and affirmations of Baptism should
be explained to parents before they are permitted to bring their
children. Here in St Patrick's and St Andrews, we run a short Baptism
preparation course several times a year and before their children are
baptised all parents are required to take part. If there are to he
Godparents, they are also encouraged to participate, although we
appreciate that often they do not live in the area and attendance may
not be possible If this sounds a bit daunting, be assured did meeting
together with other young families in a relaxed atmosphere will be
helpful in many areas both spiritually and practically, and good fun
too. |
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registration form > |
(click here) |
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Common Baptism Questions |
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When can I have my baby
baptised?
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We hold Baptism Celebrations
several times a year. The Baptism Celebration is an occasion when all
of the congregation can join with you in celebrating the introduction
of new members into our church. Normally, this will he in St Patrick's
on the 5th Sunday of those months with five Sundays. Other than in the
most exceptional circumstances, we do not administer private baptisms. |
When and where is the Baptism
preparation course? |
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The course runs for three
evenings in the three weeks leading up to the Baptism Celebration
Sunday. Usually, it will be on a Thursday evening from 7.45 to around
9.30, big we will try to ensure that we can find a night that suits
everyone in the group. We meet at the home of one of our small team of
hosts - all people with valuable practical experience of bringing up a
Christian family. |
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Do I really need to do this
course?
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Yes, unless you have been
through the course with a previous child, in which case while you need
not come, you are still welcome to join us, particularly for the last
week when you can meet the other families. Even if you are an active
member of St Patrick's or St. Andrews, we still need you there, and we
would value your experience and input too. |
Is there an exam? |
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did each one of us will have to answer to God for the promises that we
made. |
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Can anyone bring their child
for Baptism?
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There we some rules about
being a member of a church, so if neither parent has been baptised
into the Christian church (not necessarily the Church of Ireland) you
will need to talk to us first. Probably the most difficult issue to
deal with is that of lifestyle: in the service you will make certain
promises about following the teachings of Jesus Christ and if you
choose not to live in accordance with these teachings, then you cannot
make these promises. If we are honest none of us will ever succeed in
following all that Jesus taught. As long as there are hungry or lonely
people in the world, we are letting Jesus down, and this is not to
mention all the wrong things we continually do or think. The real
issue is one of choice - if any of us chooses to continue to break
Gods laws, whether it is dishonest business dealing, violent behaviour
or sexual activity of any kind outside marriage, then we cannot
honestly make the promises required in the Baptism service and we
therefore exclude ourselves. Regretfully, in today's world, that means
that a couple living together outside of marriage should not expect to
bring their child for baptism, but they will always be welcome to come
for Thanksgiving, to come along to any of our church activities and to
talk through the whole issue of Christian marriage in confidence with
one of the staff. |
What if only one parent can
make the promises? |
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There are all kinds of reasons
why this could be the case and we realise that some of them may be
quite painful. The best thing to do is to talk to one of the staff
about it. We do not exclude single parents living apart, divorced
parents or mixed marriages from bringing their children. If one parent
genuinely has reasons for not wishing to make the promises or
affirmations in the Baptism service, we would respect this honesty as
a much better alternative to saying things which you do not really
believe. |
Do we need Godparents? |
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The simple answer is no, it is
entirely a matter of personal choice and it is probably better to have
no Godparents than to have Godparents who are not in a position to keep
their promises. |
Do all children in St.
Patrick's and St. Andrew's have to be baptised? |
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No. Here, as in many other
churches, some people have reservations about baptism, preferring to
defer it until their children are old enough to make up their own
Minds on the matter. We accept this honest viewpoint and for these
families there are appropriate prayers we can include in the
Thanksgiving. Baptism is not a prerequisite for joining in any of our
church activities (except for holding office). |
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Can I be baptised as an adult? |
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Yes, if you have recently
become a Christian. It is not normal to re-baptise someone who had
already been baptised as an infant although there may be circumstances
in which this would be appropriate. You need to talk to us first and
we would still like you to come to the course. |
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What do we do next? |
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The first thing that you
should have done is to arrange to come for Thanksgiving. If you then
want to consider Baptism, cheek with the staff about the next suitable
date. It should always be the 5th Sunday, but please do not make any
arrangements, such as booking flights for relatives, until you have
confirmed the date with us and have made arrangements to attend the
preparation course. You will need to complete the attached
registration form and return it to the Parish Office at least 5-6
weeks before the scheduled date for Baptism. You should still complete
a registration form even if you have had a child baptised previously. |
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St Patricks & St Andrews,
The Parish Centre
50 Brook Street, Coleraine,
Co Londonderry. BT52 1PY.
Tel: 028 7034 4213
Fax: 028 7032 9521
Email: admin@stpats.co.uk |
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Graham Nevin |
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